EIGHTEEN VISIONS
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'Eighteen Visions' (sometimes shortened to '18V' or '18 Visions') was an Orange County-based band, signed to Epic Records and Trustkill Records. Evolving from Metalcore to Alternative Metal throughout the years, the band broke up in April 2007, less than a year after their major label debut came out.
Their glamorous image and style not usually seen in metal/hardcore bands somewhat set them apart from average OC heavy acts, and quickly drew attention, along with controversy within the scene.
Eighteen Visions was founded in October 1995 by James, Dave, Billy and Ken. The band wrote a bit of material and started to play shows, beginning at the "Koo's Cafe" in early 1996, in their local area. Soon after a second guitarist, Jeff, was added to the mix, and in March, Billy left the group and was replaced by Richie. Richie only lasted a short while, and Javier sooner took over the bass duties. Later in the year, Jeff also left the band, and Brandan was added to complete a first stable line-up.
Their debut release, "Lifeless" was released on Life Sentence Records in 1997. Shortly after, Dave left the band to form Throwdown. Steve replaced him for the ep's tour, and rumors of the band breaking up started to circulate, but were soon halted when the first full length album, "Yesterday Is Time Killed" was announced to be released on Cedargate Records due in February of 1999. Keith then joined the band to replace Steve, and the bands attention was brought up to Trustkill Records, which was still in its early beginnings. The label released the No Time for Love 7" in October of 1999, and it became an underground success. Javier left the band after touring, and Mick replaced him. Ten months after the 7" their second full length "Until the Ink Runs Out" was released. It became one of the label's best selling album and artist, which led to a lot of the earlier material getting bought out, and becoming out of print.
For their next album,"The Best of Eighteen Visions", the band re-recorded some of their earlier material, some of which was out of print, with the addition of a new song, "Motionless and White". Trustkill and the band felt it would feel much more of a new record, rather than re-releasing the two previous albums on the label. Despite raw production where mistakes weren't always edited, this was the best sounding recording they had released at the time. This would mark the beginning of the bands tentative to more melodic hardcore, rather than their older metalcore approach.
They went on to record "Vanity" in 2002, which, while still containing heavy breakdowns, metal riffs and odd time signatures, featured better production work, and bits of melodic vocals in nearly all of the songs, complete with hints at balladry with the songs "Gorgeous", an acoustic piece written and performed by then-drummer Ken Floyd, and "Love in Autumn", the album's closer. While the fanbase grew after this release, this was the last album to feature guitarist Brandan, who left the band in order to handle full time vocal duties in metalcore OC band Bleeding Through. Eighteen Visions went on to tour for "Vanity" as a four piece. A video was made for "You Broke Like Glass" which played in heavy rotation via MTV2's Headbangers Ball.
After touring, they went into the studio to record "Obsession" with producer Mudrock. Material was equally written by guitarist Keith Barney and Ken Floyd, who not only played drums, but also guitars on a fair amount of songs. Dramatically changing styles, the album showcased a new sound that was much more accessible to a wider audience, featuring Post Grunge and Hard Rock riffs, less complex song-structuring and a much more diverse and melodic range of vocals. Despite the band gaining many new and younger fans, and the song "Tower of Snakes" receiving many praises from hardcore aficionados, with its mid-song breakdown nearly achieving cult status , the rest of the album somewhat puzzled their older fanbase, leaving a large portion of it not supporting them anymore and writing Eighteen Visions off as a sellout band.
The band then went on a worldwide tour as a supporting act for bands like HIM, Lostprophets and Killswitch Engage, with Ken Floyd switching to second guitar, and Jason Shrout (later replaced by Trevor Friedrich) being added to the bands line-up for all drumming duties. Video were made for the songs "Waiting for the Heavens", "Tower of Snakes" and "I Let Go". The album went on to sell a disappointing 200 000 copies, which is twice what the previous record had sold, but was still not enough to break the band into the mainstream.
Obsession went on to be the band's last album for Trustkill Records, after they signed a contract with major label Epic Records for their next effort.
Now a solidified 5 piece, 18V went into pre-production with producer Machine and 32 demos to work on. On July 18, 2006 they released their self titled major label debut, which featured slick production, anthemic choruses à la Def Leppard, dark industrial electronic programming and all-melodic vocals reminiscent of the then-current hard rock trend successfully embraced by fellow OC band Avenged Sevenfold. Although a video had been made and a promo album lauch ad campaign for the radio friendly song "Tonightless" (which was a leftover from the previous album writing session) was ready to air, the band decided to scrap it all in order to go with the more hard-rocking "Victim", supposedly against the record label's will. Still, a video was made for "Victim", with little effort from Epic to promote it, even though the song was featured in the 2006 WWE pay-per-view.
Witnessing album sales not taking off and dropping off the Billboard 200 after only one week, the band then however embarked a variety of tours to promote the record, as a supporting act again. They played opening slots for Avenged Sevenfold, Coheed and Cambria, Hinder, Bullet for my Valentine, among others.
Even though the catchy power ballad "Broken Hearted" was released to radio stations and managed to get some airplay, no video was made, the album ended up as a commercial flop. Even though the number of total sales has not been made official, it is widely rumored to have ended below the 100k bar.
Our Darkest Days was intended to be the final single from the album, but due to the break up of the band, the single was never released, the song did, however, receive a lot of airplay in the UK and Australia.
In 2007, while still playing a few shows in Australia and posting daily MySpace bulletins asking fans to request "Broken Hearted" on the radio, band coverage, press and blog updates started decreasing considerably, leading to believe the band had been dropped by Epic Records, though no official word on that has been released. This also led to break up rumors, which were soon confirmed.
On April 9, 2007 bassist Mick Morris confirmed the band's breakup on Myspace.
"After several years of touring and quite a few album releases we have decided that it is time to go our separate ways. We have been a band for a very long time and feel good about everything we were able to accomplish. At this point in our lives and our careers we feel its time to move on to something fresh and new. Whether it be music, touring or just being at home to live and enjoy life. We would like to thank all of our fans, friends and families for all of the great support over the years. We would also like to thank all of the bands we have shared the stage with and everyone who has ever worked with the band, opened a door or reached out a hand. We will be playing our final two shows in April. One in San Diego and one in Orange County. Come rock with us one more time."[1][2]
While the break up might appear somewhat abrupt, on July 13, 2007 frontman James Hart stated on his MySpace blog that this was not the case : " 18V had been a band for 10+ years, [...] it just got to the point where we all had different goals and ideas for the band on a musical and touring basis. We all felt it was time to move on to something fresh and new" .
Keith Barney and Trevor Friedrich have since formed an Industrial Rock group with Lylah frontman Norman Matthew named Never Enough.They are slated to release their first effort on September 11, 2007 through Corporate Punishment records.
Also, Keith Barney recently put his Metalcore side project xRAINx back to life and added 2 new songs on its Myspace profile.
Ken Floyd is currently working as a guitar tech for former tourmates Buckcherry.
Mick Morris is currently on tour as a tech for Hatebreed on Ozzfest. He's also busy launching his own clothing line, Dethless Clothing, and holds a popular weekly updated ebay store, selling Hardcore band shirts and other related items. On August 9th, Morris announced via Myspace that his clothing line was no more due to financial and personal constraints, but that he nonetheless "will be back soon with something that will murder anything [he has] ever done musically".
James Hart has been working with former Nixons frontman Zac Maloy, on a new Mainstream Rock-based solo project. Around 11 songs have been written so far, according to James's MySpace blog. Maloy's previous collaborations include songwriting credits for Chris Daughtry and Bowling for Soup, among others.
Ex-bandmate Keith Barney, and Avenged Sevenfold lead guitarist Synyster Gates look to have contributed to the project as well. Hart is still currently unsigned.
★ Yesterday Is Time Killed (1999)
★ Until the Ink Runs Out (2000)
★ Vanity (2002)
★ Obsession (2004)
★ Eighteen Visions (2006)
★ Lifeless (1997)
★ No Time for Love (1999)
★ The Best of Eighteen Visions (2001)
★ Vanity Promo (2002)
★ ''All We've Got'' (3:39) - From Trustkill Takeover Vol. II
★ ''Broken Hearted (Promo Edit)'' (3:40)
★ ''Champagne And Sleeping Pills (Champagne Enemaz Remix)'' (4:23) - From Threat: Music That Inspired The Movie
★ ''Guilty Pleasures'' (2:54) - From UK version of Obsession
★ ''Paradise City'' (5:12) - From Bring You To Your Knees: A Tribute to Guns & Roses
★ ''Quiet'' (3:46) - From
★ ''The Beautiful People'' (3:35) - From Punk Goes '90s
★ ''The Epic'' (2:29) - From import versions on Eighteen Visions
★ ''The Sun Falls Down'' (3:15) - From I Let Go UK single
★ ''Tonightless (Single Version)'' (4:00)
★ ''World Is Mine'' (2:57) - From I Let Go UK single
★ You Broke Like Glass (2002)
★ Waiting for the Heavens (2004)
★ Tower of Snakes (2004)
★ I Let Go (2005)
★ Tonightless (2006)
★ Victim (2006)
★ In 2006, the track "Champagne and Sleeping Pills" was contributed to the mashup album Threat: Music That Inspired The Movie, where it was remixed by Otto Von Schirach and dubbed "Champagne Enemaz."
★ The official Eighteen Visions fan club is called "The Fools"
★ Eighteen Visions was formerly recognized as a Straight Edge band (a band comprised of only Straight Edge members).
★ In 2006 the WWE used the song "Victim" for the pay-per-view Vengeance of that year.
★ "I Let Go" was used in the video game soundtrack "".
★ Official Website
★ Eighteen Visions on MySpace
★ Eighteen Visions on Trustkill Records
★ Eighteen Visions on Roadrunner Records UK
★ Eighteen Visions interview on Burning Angel
★ Eighteen Visions interview on PWMania
★ Eighteen Visions interview on StimTV
★ Eighteen Visions Old Fan Site
'Eighteen Visions' (sometimes shortened to '18V' or '18 Visions') was an Orange County-based band, signed to Epic Records and Trustkill Records. Evolving from Metalcore to Alternative Metal throughout the years, the band broke up in April 2007, less than a year after their major label debut came out.
Their glamorous image and style not usually seen in metal/hardcore bands somewhat set them apart from average OC heavy acts, and quickly drew attention, along with controversy within the scene.
| Contents |
| History |
| Beginnings |
| Rise of Success |
| Taste of Mainstream |
| Break Up |
| Post-18V |
| Discography |
| Main Albums |
| EPs & Compilations |
| Singles |
| Covers And B-Sides |
| Videos |
| Trivia |
| External links |
History
Beginnings
Eighteen Visions was founded in October 1995 by James, Dave, Billy and Ken. The band wrote a bit of material and started to play shows, beginning at the "Koo's Cafe" in early 1996, in their local area. Soon after a second guitarist, Jeff, was added to the mix, and in March, Billy left the group and was replaced by Richie. Richie only lasted a short while, and Javier sooner took over the bass duties. Later in the year, Jeff also left the band, and Brandan was added to complete a first stable line-up.
Their debut release, "Lifeless" was released on Life Sentence Records in 1997. Shortly after, Dave left the band to form Throwdown. Steve replaced him for the ep's tour, and rumors of the band breaking up started to circulate, but were soon halted when the first full length album, "Yesterday Is Time Killed" was announced to be released on Cedargate Records due in February of 1999. Keith then joined the band to replace Steve, and the bands attention was brought up to Trustkill Records, which was still in its early beginnings. The label released the No Time for Love 7" in October of 1999, and it became an underground success. Javier left the band after touring, and Mick replaced him. Ten months after the 7" their second full length "Until the Ink Runs Out" was released. It became one of the label's best selling album and artist, which led to a lot of the earlier material getting bought out, and becoming out of print.
Rise of Success
For their next album,"The Best of Eighteen Visions", the band re-recorded some of their earlier material, some of which was out of print, with the addition of a new song, "Motionless and White". Trustkill and the band felt it would feel much more of a new record, rather than re-releasing the two previous albums on the label. Despite raw production where mistakes weren't always edited, this was the best sounding recording they had released at the time. This would mark the beginning of the bands tentative to more melodic hardcore, rather than their older metalcore approach.
They went on to record "Vanity" in 2002, which, while still containing heavy breakdowns, metal riffs and odd time signatures, featured better production work, and bits of melodic vocals in nearly all of the songs, complete with hints at balladry with the songs "Gorgeous", an acoustic piece written and performed by then-drummer Ken Floyd, and "Love in Autumn", the album's closer. While the fanbase grew after this release, this was the last album to feature guitarist Brandan, who left the band in order to handle full time vocal duties in metalcore OC band Bleeding Through. Eighteen Visions went on to tour for "Vanity" as a four piece. A video was made for "You Broke Like Glass" which played in heavy rotation via MTV2's Headbangers Ball.
After touring, they went into the studio to record "Obsession" with producer Mudrock. Material was equally written by guitarist Keith Barney and Ken Floyd, who not only played drums, but also guitars on a fair amount of songs. Dramatically changing styles, the album showcased a new sound that was much more accessible to a wider audience, featuring Post Grunge and Hard Rock riffs, less complex song-structuring and a much more diverse and melodic range of vocals. Despite the band gaining many new and younger fans, and the song "Tower of Snakes" receiving many praises from hardcore aficionados, with its mid-song breakdown nearly achieving cult status , the rest of the album somewhat puzzled their older fanbase, leaving a large portion of it not supporting them anymore and writing Eighteen Visions off as a sellout band.
The band then went on a worldwide tour as a supporting act for bands like HIM, Lostprophets and Killswitch Engage, with Ken Floyd switching to second guitar, and Jason Shrout (later replaced by Trevor Friedrich) being added to the bands line-up for all drumming duties. Video were made for the songs "Waiting for the Heavens", "Tower of Snakes" and "I Let Go". The album went on to sell a disappointing 200 000 copies, which is twice what the previous record had sold, but was still not enough to break the band into the mainstream.
Obsession went on to be the band's last album for Trustkill Records, after they signed a contract with major label Epic Records for their next effort.
Taste of Mainstream
Now a solidified 5 piece, 18V went into pre-production with producer Machine and 32 demos to work on. On July 18, 2006 they released their self titled major label debut, which featured slick production, anthemic choruses à la Def Leppard, dark industrial electronic programming and all-melodic vocals reminiscent of the then-current hard rock trend successfully embraced by fellow OC band Avenged Sevenfold. Although a video had been made and a promo album lauch ad campaign for the radio friendly song "Tonightless" (which was a leftover from the previous album writing session) was ready to air, the band decided to scrap it all in order to go with the more hard-rocking "Victim", supposedly against the record label's will. Still, a video was made for "Victim", with little effort from Epic to promote it, even though the song was featured in the 2006 WWE pay-per-view.
Witnessing album sales not taking off and dropping off the Billboard 200 after only one week, the band then however embarked a variety of tours to promote the record, as a supporting act again. They played opening slots for Avenged Sevenfold, Coheed and Cambria, Hinder, Bullet for my Valentine, among others.
Even though the catchy power ballad "Broken Hearted" was released to radio stations and managed to get some airplay, no video was made, the album ended up as a commercial flop. Even though the number of total sales has not been made official, it is widely rumored to have ended below the 100k bar.
Our Darkest Days was intended to be the final single from the album, but due to the break up of the band, the single was never released, the song did, however, receive a lot of airplay in the UK and Australia.
Break Up
In 2007, while still playing a few shows in Australia and posting daily MySpace bulletins asking fans to request "Broken Hearted" on the radio, band coverage, press and blog updates started decreasing considerably, leading to believe the band had been dropped by Epic Records, though no official word on that has been released. This also led to break up rumors, which were soon confirmed.
On April 9, 2007 bassist Mick Morris confirmed the band's breakup on Myspace.
"After several years of touring and quite a few album releases we have decided that it is time to go our separate ways. We have been a band for a very long time and feel good about everything we were able to accomplish. At this point in our lives and our careers we feel its time to move on to something fresh and new. Whether it be music, touring or just being at home to live and enjoy life. We would like to thank all of our fans, friends and families for all of the great support over the years. We would also like to thank all of the bands we have shared the stage with and everyone who has ever worked with the band, opened a door or reached out a hand. We will be playing our final two shows in April. One in San Diego and one in Orange County. Come rock with us one more time."[1][2]
While the break up might appear somewhat abrupt, on July 13, 2007 frontman James Hart stated on his MySpace blog that this was not the case : " 18V had been a band for 10+ years, [...] it just got to the point where we all had different goals and ideas for the band on a musical and touring basis. We all felt it was time to move on to something fresh and new" .
Post-18V
Keith Barney and Trevor Friedrich have since formed an Industrial Rock group with Lylah frontman Norman Matthew named Never Enough.They are slated to release their first effort on September 11, 2007 through Corporate Punishment records.
Also, Keith Barney recently put his Metalcore side project xRAINx back to life and added 2 new songs on its Myspace profile.
Ken Floyd is currently working as a guitar tech for former tourmates Buckcherry.
Mick Morris is currently on tour as a tech for Hatebreed on Ozzfest. He's also busy launching his own clothing line, Dethless Clothing, and holds a popular weekly updated ebay store, selling Hardcore band shirts and other related items. On August 9th, Morris announced via Myspace that his clothing line was no more due to financial and personal constraints, but that he nonetheless "will be back soon with something that will murder anything [he has] ever done musically".
James Hart has been working with former Nixons frontman Zac Maloy, on a new Mainstream Rock-based solo project. Around 11 songs have been written so far, according to James's MySpace blog. Maloy's previous collaborations include songwriting credits for Chris Daughtry and Bowling for Soup, among others.
Ex-bandmate Keith Barney, and Avenged Sevenfold lead guitarist Synyster Gates look to have contributed to the project as well. Hart is still currently unsigned.
Discography
Main Albums
★ Yesterday Is Time Killed (1999)
★ Until the Ink Runs Out (2000)
★ Vanity (2002)
★ Obsession (2004)
★ Eighteen Visions (2006)
EPs & Compilations
★ Lifeless (1997)
★ No Time for Love (1999)
★ The Best of Eighteen Visions (2001)
★ Vanity Promo (2002)
Singles
| 'Year' | 'Title' | 'Chart positions' | 'Album' | |||
| US Modern Rock | US Mainstream Rock | UK | US Hot 100 | |||
| 1999 | "Isola In The Rain" | - | - | - | - | ''No Time for Love'' |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2002 | "You Broke Like Glass" | - | #102 | - | - | ''Vanity'' |
| 2004 | "Waiting for the Heavens" | - | #96 | - | - | ''Obsession'' |
| 2004 | "Tower of Snakes" | - | #67 | - | - | ''Obsession'' |
| 2005 | "I Let Go" | - | #77 | - | - | ''Obsession'' |
| 2006 | "Tonightless" | #78 | #33 | - | - | ''Eighteen Visions'' |
| 2006 | "Victim" | #23 | #13 | #34 | #98 | ''Eighteen Visions'' |
| 2007 | "Broken Hearted" | #69 | #29 | #87 | - | ''Eighteen Visions'' |
Covers And B-Sides
★ ''All We've Got'' (3:39) - From Trustkill Takeover Vol. II
★ ''Broken Hearted (Promo Edit)'' (3:40)
★ ''Champagne And Sleeping Pills (Champagne Enemaz Remix)'' (4:23) - From Threat: Music That Inspired The Movie
★ ''Guilty Pleasures'' (2:54) - From UK version of Obsession
★ ''Paradise City'' (5:12) - From Bring You To Your Knees: A Tribute to Guns & Roses
★ ''Quiet'' (3:46) - From
★ ''The Beautiful People'' (3:35) - From Punk Goes '90s
★ ''The Epic'' (2:29) - From import versions on Eighteen Visions
★ ''The Sun Falls Down'' (3:15) - From I Let Go UK single
★ ''Tonightless (Single Version)'' (4:00)
★ ''World Is Mine'' (2:57) - From I Let Go UK single
Videos
★ You Broke Like Glass (2002)
★ Waiting for the Heavens (2004)
★ Tower of Snakes (2004)
★ I Let Go (2005)
★ Tonightless (2006)
★ Victim (2006)
Trivia
★ In 2006, the track "Champagne and Sleeping Pills" was contributed to the mashup album Threat: Music That Inspired The Movie, where it was remixed by Otto Von Schirach and dubbed "Champagne Enemaz."
★ The official Eighteen Visions fan club is called "The Fools"
★ Eighteen Visions was formerly recognized as a Straight Edge band (a band comprised of only Straight Edge members).
★ In 2006 the WWE used the song "Victim" for the pay-per-view Vengeance of that year.
★ "I Let Go" was used in the video game soundtrack "".
External links
★ Official Website
★ Eighteen Visions on MySpace
★ Eighteen Visions on Trustkill Records
★ Eighteen Visions on Roadrunner Records UK
★ Eighteen Visions interview on Burning Angel
★ Eighteen Visions interview on PWMania
★ Eighteen Visions interview on StimTV
★ Eighteen Visions Old Fan Site
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