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'''You Don't Say!''' was an American television game show that had three separate runs on television. The first version aired on NBC daytime from April 1, 1963 to September 26, 1969 (with a nighttime run in 1963-64). Years later, ABC ran a revival from July 7 to November 28, 1975 (replacing ''The Money Maze''). A final version appeared in syndication during 1978-79, but did not last the entire season.
Ralph Andrews Productions produced all three versions of ''You Don't Say!'', with Desilu Productions (later Paramount Television) co-producing the original NBC run.
The original version and ABC version of ''YDS!'' were hosted by Tom Kennedy; Jim Peck hosted the syndicated version. Jay Stewart and John Harlan announced for the show (Stewart, on the earliest episodes of the original; Harlan, the rest of the original and its two subsequent revivals).
Two celebrity-contestant teams competed. The object was to convey the name of a famous person by giving clues, leading to words that sounded like part of the person's name. The contestant then had to sound the words out to figure out the person in question. The celebrities were not allowed to use anything that might give away the answer or to give a clue that would lead to the proper name of the person. They also could not say the clue to the contestant, with the penalty being loss of control for any violation. Each correct guess won a point, with three points winning the game.
The winning contestant played the Bonus Board for a chance at $300. A famous name (sent in by a home viewer) was given to the celebrity, who tried to convey the name to the contestant by way of clues. Guessing the word on the first clue won $300 (plus a new car if the player won the front game 3-0). The second clue netted $200, and the third, $100. In such instances, the celebrity was not allowed to help the contestant on the first clue, but was permitted to help on the second and third clues.
Players stayed on until losing twice or winning seven times (NBC's limit at that time).
When ''You Don't Say!'' returned in 1975, it also returned with a new format, influenced largely by the success of CBS' ''Match Game.'' Gone were the two teams. Instead, two individual players competed, with four celebrities on a panel.
The celebrities once again tried to convey the identity of a famous person or place to the contestants. One celebrity gave a clue to the controlling contestant, who had five seconds to guess who it was with a correct word guess. If it wasn't guessed, the next celebrity in line gave a clue to the next contestant. This continued until one player guessed the word, with a maximum of four clues. A correct guess on the first clue was worth $200, and decreased in $50 increments for each clue needed afterwards. $500 won the game and a chance to win $10,000 more at the Bonus Board.
In this new bonus game, a contestant was faced with the task of giving the clues to four famous names or places to the celebrities. The contestant had a maximum of six (originally five) clues to give to the stars. A celebrity guessing one right was worth $500, two $1000, three $2000, with all four stars netting the player $5000. If it only took four clues, the contestant won $10,000 (which only happened once during the show's brief run, on the last episode). Players competed until either losing twice or exceeding ABC's winnings limit of $20,000, but were allowed to keep $25,000.
Peck's version was played very similar to the ABC version, however had a few changes. Two contestants would play on Monday and Tuesday of a particular week, while two more would play on Wednesday and Thursday. In a tournament fashion, the highest scorers from those games would play each other on Friday. Instead of cash being awarded on a scale for each correct answer, every answer scored only one point, regardless of the number of clues necessary, with five winning the game; while correct answers were worth $100 apiece on the Monday-Thursday shows and $200 on Fridays, these payouts were not reflected in the scoring. If the game ended in a tie due to time running out, the player who needed fewer clues during the course of the game was declared the winner. The Bonus Board was played for a flat $5000 in cash on Monday-Thursday, with the Friday game being played for $10,000 in prizes. The Friday one was harder than the ones used for from Monday-Thursday.
''YDS!'' joined the network's afternoon lineup in spring 1963 at 3:30 p.m. Eastern/2:30 Central. What it went up against throughout most of its run was the popular CBS soap ''The Edge of Night,'' which led it in the ratings. However, weak competition from numerous ABC soaps helped keep ''YDS!'' afloat for a solid five years. This changed, however, when ABC air a soap at 3:30/2:30 with ''One Life to Live,'' which premiered in July 1968. In what may have been the largest housecleaning of its daytime schedule ever, NBC dropped ''YDS!'' and three other games, ''Personality'', ''Eye Guess,'' and the original ''Match Game'' before the begininng of the 1969-70 season. Taking its place on the lineup was a soap titled ''Bright Promise,'' which ran until 1972.
Six years later, with CBS' revival of ''Match Game'' bringing celebrity games back into popularity, Andrews managed to interest ABC in a similar revival of ''YDS!'' Kennedy, ten days after ending a three-year stint helming ABC's ''Split Second,'' once again stepped up to the podium on July 7. However, the 4 p.m./3 Central timeslot, at which many affiliates either tape-delayed the network feed until the next morning or preempted entirely, garnered low ratings for the show, despite facing NBC's soap opera ''Somerset'' and two low-rated CBS games, ''Musical Chairs'' and ''Give-n-Take.''
''The Edge of Night'' had been CBS' lowest-rated soap since its 1972 move to 2:30 Eastern/1:30 Central. With ''As the World Turns'' set to expand to a full hour, CBS decided to get rid of the 19-year-old show (which debuted on the same day in 1956, and was packaged by the same company, Procter and Gamble Productions, as ''ATWT''). In the first instance of a daytime serial moving to another network, P&G agreed to CBS' terms, and sold ''Edge'' to ABC, who decided that the only viable slot for that show, given its long history of attracting audiences other than housewives, was 4/3. Desperate to get some affiliates back on board, ABC banked on the show's instant familiarity. Therefore, on November 28, ''YDS!'' ended its five-month run, giving way to ''Edge'' the next Monday (as a result, a special Christmas week of shows with children playing, which Tom even plugged on-air, was never seen).
The Peck version did not sell to many markets, probably because of the 1975 ABC version. The few stations which did buy it ran it in non-peak slots, never in proximity to primetime (save for WPIX in New York, which aired it at 8:30 p.m. as part of a primetime syndicated game show block, as did KHJ in Los Angeles). With little if any promotion, the show folded up after about a half season.
Before its NBC premiere, ''You Don't Say!'' was given a trial run as a local show on Los Angeles station KTLA from November 1962 to early 1963, with Jack Barry as host; since Barry was still exiled to the networks in the wake of the 1950s quiz show scandals; he was replaced by Tom Kennedy when NBC picked up the show.
Much like the original version, the 1975 revival was also given a local trial run on KTLA before its network premiere; it ran on Sunday nights from April to June of 1975, with L.A. radio personality Clark Race as host, though Tom Kennedy actually appeared as a panel celebrity.
Goodson-Todman Productions sued ''YDS!'' packager Ralph Andrews during the NBC run, because they thought that the format was too similar to G-T's ''Password''. Although Goodson-Todman did not win the case, they did win an unusual concession from Andrews: Kennedy's podium on ''You Don't Say!'' had to be moved to the end of the playing table, from the center where it originally stood, since the original set layout did indeed look very similar to that of ''Password.''
The 60's Kennedy version status is rumored to be destroyed, due to a common practice known as wiping. However, a few episodes exist, including two black and wite episodes and a handful of color episodes. The 1975 version's fate is unknown, but is probably destroyed as well. A few episode of that edition also exist. Two episodes of the Peck version are known to currently exist.
★ Game Show '75
★ You Don't Say! (1963)
★ You Don't Say! (1975)
'''You Don't Say!''' was an American television game show that had three separate runs on television. The first version aired on NBC daytime from April 1, 1963 to September 26, 1969 (with a nighttime run in 1963-64). Years later, ABC ran a revival from July 7 to November 28, 1975 (replacing ''The Money Maze''). A final version appeared in syndication during 1978-79, but did not last the entire season.
Ralph Andrews Productions produced all three versions of ''You Don't Say!'', with Desilu Productions (later Paramount Television) co-producing the original NBC run.
| Contents |
| Hosts and Announcers |
| NBC 1963-69 format |
| Bonus Board |
| ABC 1975 format |
| 70s Bonus Board |
| 1978 Syndicated format |
| Scheduling History |
| Local versions |
| Lawsuit |
| Episode status |
| External links |
Hosts and Announcers
The original version and ABC version of ''YDS!'' were hosted by Tom Kennedy; Jim Peck hosted the syndicated version. Jay Stewart and John Harlan announced for the show (Stewart, on the earliest episodes of the original; Harlan, the rest of the original and its two subsequent revivals).
NBC 1963-69 format
Two celebrity-contestant teams competed. The object was to convey the name of a famous person by giving clues, leading to words that sounded like part of the person's name. The contestant then had to sound the words out to figure out the person in question. The celebrities were not allowed to use anything that might give away the answer or to give a clue that would lead to the proper name of the person. They also could not say the clue to the contestant, with the penalty being loss of control for any violation. Each correct guess won a point, with three points winning the game.
Bonus Board
The winning contestant played the Bonus Board for a chance at $300. A famous name (sent in by a home viewer) was given to the celebrity, who tried to convey the name to the contestant by way of clues. Guessing the word on the first clue won $300 (plus a new car if the player won the front game 3-0). The second clue netted $200, and the third, $100. In such instances, the celebrity was not allowed to help the contestant on the first clue, but was permitted to help on the second and third clues.
Players stayed on until losing twice or winning seven times (NBC's limit at that time).
ABC 1975 format
When ''You Don't Say!'' returned in 1975, it also returned with a new format, influenced largely by the success of CBS' ''Match Game.'' Gone were the two teams. Instead, two individual players competed, with four celebrities on a panel.
The celebrities once again tried to convey the identity of a famous person or place to the contestants. One celebrity gave a clue to the controlling contestant, who had five seconds to guess who it was with a correct word guess. If it wasn't guessed, the next celebrity in line gave a clue to the next contestant. This continued until one player guessed the word, with a maximum of four clues. A correct guess on the first clue was worth $200, and decreased in $50 increments for each clue needed afterwards. $500 won the game and a chance to win $10,000 more at the Bonus Board.
70s Bonus Board
In this new bonus game, a contestant was faced with the task of giving the clues to four famous names or places to the celebrities. The contestant had a maximum of six (originally five) clues to give to the stars. A celebrity guessing one right was worth $500, two $1000, three $2000, with all four stars netting the player $5000. If it only took four clues, the contestant won $10,000 (which only happened once during the show's brief run, on the last episode). Players competed until either losing twice or exceeding ABC's winnings limit of $20,000, but were allowed to keep $25,000.
1978 Syndicated format
Ann Elder tries to get a contestant to get a word on the Jim Peck version.
Two contestants on the Peck version.
Peck's version was played very similar to the ABC version, however had a few changes. Two contestants would play on Monday and Tuesday of a particular week, while two more would play on Wednesday and Thursday. In a tournament fashion, the highest scorers from those games would play each other on Friday. Instead of cash being awarded on a scale for each correct answer, every answer scored only one point, regardless of the number of clues necessary, with five winning the game; while correct answers were worth $100 apiece on the Monday-Thursday shows and $200 on Fridays, these payouts were not reflected in the scoring. If the game ended in a tie due to time running out, the player who needed fewer clues during the course of the game was declared the winner. The Bonus Board was played for a flat $5000 in cash on Monday-Thursday, with the Friday game being played for $10,000 in prizes. The Friday one was harder than the ones used for from Monday-Thursday.
Scheduling History
''YDS!'' joined the network's afternoon lineup in spring 1963 at 3:30 p.m. Eastern/2:30 Central. What it went up against throughout most of its run was the popular CBS soap ''The Edge of Night,'' which led it in the ratings. However, weak competition from numerous ABC soaps helped keep ''YDS!'' afloat for a solid five years. This changed, however, when ABC air a soap at 3:30/2:30 with ''One Life to Live,'' which premiered in July 1968. In what may have been the largest housecleaning of its daytime schedule ever, NBC dropped ''YDS!'' and three other games, ''Personality'', ''Eye Guess,'' and the original ''Match Game'' before the begininng of the 1969-70 season. Taking its place on the lineup was a soap titled ''Bright Promise,'' which ran until 1972.
Six years later, with CBS' revival of ''Match Game'' bringing celebrity games back into popularity, Andrews managed to interest ABC in a similar revival of ''YDS!'' Kennedy, ten days after ending a three-year stint helming ABC's ''Split Second,'' once again stepped up to the podium on July 7. However, the 4 p.m./3 Central timeslot, at which many affiliates either tape-delayed the network feed until the next morning or preempted entirely, garnered low ratings for the show, despite facing NBC's soap opera ''Somerset'' and two low-rated CBS games, ''Musical Chairs'' and ''Give-n-Take.''
''The Edge of Night'' had been CBS' lowest-rated soap since its 1972 move to 2:30 Eastern/1:30 Central. With ''As the World Turns'' set to expand to a full hour, CBS decided to get rid of the 19-year-old show (which debuted on the same day in 1956, and was packaged by the same company, Procter and Gamble Productions, as ''ATWT''). In the first instance of a daytime serial moving to another network, P&G agreed to CBS' terms, and sold ''Edge'' to ABC, who decided that the only viable slot for that show, given its long history of attracting audiences other than housewives, was 4/3. Desperate to get some affiliates back on board, ABC banked on the show's instant familiarity. Therefore, on November 28, ''YDS!'' ended its five-month run, giving way to ''Edge'' the next Monday (as a result, a special Christmas week of shows with children playing, which Tom even plugged on-air, was never seen).
The Peck version did not sell to many markets, probably because of the 1975 ABC version. The few stations which did buy it ran it in non-peak slots, never in proximity to primetime (save for WPIX in New York, which aired it at 8:30 p.m. as part of a primetime syndicated game show block, as did KHJ in Los Angeles). With little if any promotion, the show folded up after about a half season.
Local versions
Before its NBC premiere, ''You Don't Say!'' was given a trial run as a local show on Los Angeles station KTLA from November 1962 to early 1963, with Jack Barry as host; since Barry was still exiled to the networks in the wake of the 1950s quiz show scandals; he was replaced by Tom Kennedy when NBC picked up the show.
Much like the original version, the 1975 revival was also given a local trial run on KTLA before its network premiere; it ran on Sunday nights from April to June of 1975, with L.A. radio personality Clark Race as host, though Tom Kennedy actually appeared as a panel celebrity.
Lawsuit
Goodson-Todman Productions sued ''YDS!'' packager Ralph Andrews during the NBC run, because they thought that the format was too similar to G-T's ''Password''. Although Goodson-Todman did not win the case, they did win an unusual concession from Andrews: Kennedy's podium on ''You Don't Say!'' had to be moved to the end of the playing table, from the center where it originally stood, since the original set layout did indeed look very similar to that of ''Password.''
Episode status
The 60's Kennedy version status is rumored to be destroyed, due to a common practice known as wiping. However, a few episodes exist, including two black and wite episodes and a handful of color episodes. The 1975 version's fate is unknown, but is probably destroyed as well. A few episode of that edition also exist. Two episodes of the Peck version are known to currently exist.
External links
★ Game Show '75
★ You Don't Say! (1963)
★ You Don't Say! (1975)
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