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Re: ?4 Creedal Christians on the Plurality of the Trinity


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Re: ?4 Creedal Christians on the Plurality of the Trinity

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There is no such thing as pure culture so many influences went into creating the original software. From there everything else are expansion packs and updates. In literature Yahweh was allowed to have a pantheon but never was there allowed to be one as an intercessor to him. While the angles are said to plead causes for those who need it, at times he listened and at times he did not. This is shown in the literature and mythology on both the ascension of Moses and Enoch. In both cases the angels were repulsed by and protested, and tried to hinder them from entering the highest heaven but were rebuked by the Diety. Yahweh in literature was Anthropomorphic. This was later attributed also to Christ after the resurrection. The thief may represent the Evil and good Impulse. Forgiveness is always given quickly when asked for in Jewish literature. As for the other who would not was allowed to do so without question also follows literature. The quote from Christ as he died was a traditional Psalm quoted at death or in sickness or distress. Psalm 22. Which was common in the Ancient Near East. See the Prayer of Lamentation to Ishtar here: http://www.piney.com/LamIsht.html The texts of where it all comes from. Also I forgot to mention Oriental texts influenced such thinking. Pseudepigrapha http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com/ On Metetron: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metatron From the text "PHILO: METATRON: WISDOM: "Two important ideas are enshrined here. Firstly, Metatron's existence is made to date from the Creation. A kind of pre-existence is accorded him--and the doctrine of pre-existence, or rather pre-existences, is a ubiquitous element in the old Rabbinic treatment of cosmogony. "Seven things preceded the Creation of the world, viz.: (a) the Torah, (b) the Divine Throne, (c) the Temple, (d) the Name of the Messiah, (e) Paradise, (f) Hell, (g) Repentance." Whether Metatron ought to be an eighth, or is to be identified with one among these seven, is a point for further research." : http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/jm/jm07.htm On Samael: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael The Talmud: http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm On Rabbi Joshua ben Levi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_ben_Levi#In_legend On what possibly influence the Rabbi Joshua legends: http://www.gatewaystobabylon.com/myths/texts/classic/ishtardesc.htm The War in Heaven Shemhazai and Azael (Scroll down to the section on this link.) http://www.worldwideschool.org/library/books/relg/historygeography/TheLegendsoftheJewsVolume1/chap9.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azazel

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wayman29

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creed, father, forsake, gods, jes, monotheism, mormon, nicea, one, plurality, polytheism, son, trinity,

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